tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post5777609570713860037..comments2024-03-08T00:12:34.350-08:00Comments on Art and Quilts, cogitations thereon: The practice of value and the value of practiceElizabeth Bartonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13928615247903165719noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-62235028864730457572011-02-09T12:04:57.243-08:002011-02-09T12:04:57.243-08:00Ah, I remember that sorting in Nancy Crow's cl...Ah, I remember that sorting in Nancy Crow's class. Here's a little tip I learned somewhere along the way: set your camera to shoot only B/W. Even if you don't click the shutter, it allows you to look in only grayscale, and when sorting different hues for value, it's invaluable. <br />Thank you for the tip to practice when walking. There, the "squint" is the tool (altho' it probably doubles our wrinkles!).<br />SueSue Walenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03508533382658854451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-63918038790418449832011-02-04T12:16:22.057-08:002011-02-04T12:16:22.057-08:00they're still doing the 100 drawings on little...they're still doing the 100 drawings on little cards in art school - I saw them all taped up on the walls last semester - a whole gallery full. It looked pretty neat...but I'd love to know what the real practice is about.Elizabeth Bartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13928615247903165719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-41052625992626252062011-02-04T11:44:08.975-08:002011-02-04T11:44:08.975-08:00hmmmm... seems you're not the only one thinkin...hmmmm... seems you're not the only one thinking in terms of practicing to 100 this week.<br />check out little wolf's mark making practice. got me to thinking about how to do the same thing with stitches... sort of a dictionary of "my" stitches.<br />http://littlewolfblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/02/making-marks/cynhttp:www.xoxoquilts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-86999276928082601992011-02-03T21:28:24.317-08:002011-02-03T21:28:24.317-08:00June raises a good point. I saw a trio of quilts u...June raises a good point. I saw a trio of quilts using small squares of solids from the color wheel (12 colors) plus tones and tints, also solids. The three quilts had different backgrounds: white, black, and gray. Amazing how different those small squares looked in a different setting, even though they had not changed. Value is so very relative. And when I think I am "very good" and sit beside you, or someone else who is "very good" suddenly my value changes! Love this blog!Elsie Montgomeryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739927333538419518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-32577910802723439132011-02-03T20:46:46.954-08:002011-02-03T20:46:46.954-08:00You've got me searching for my Josef Alber'...You've got me searching for my Josef Alber's books tonight. In classes I often use paint chips and have students start with the neutral white to black and progress to putting 3 different colors in value order, then 4 and so on. There are often disagreements as these progress and I'd like to read more on how individual perception is involved in value differentiation. One person's blue can be another's green. Is value affected the same way? Thanks for bringing this up as a topic.Lori LaBergehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359673505050157296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-11726771677376403722011-02-03T13:12:03.113-08:002011-02-03T13:12:03.113-08:00There are no Outliers! We can all put in 10,000 ho...There are no Outliers! We can all put in 10,000 hours and become great. However, some just want to call it good at 1,000. My desire has never been to achieve accolades, but to be able to express my view of the world in a competent way. That takes practice!Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13823637935554619493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-57909652539155960332011-02-03T12:39:31.201-08:002011-02-03T12:39:31.201-08:00How about playing around with value scales done by...How about playing around with value scales done by changing the density of black marks you make on white paper. You can try it with all kinds of patterns. My students did stunning portraits this way after practicing a series of value scales.Diane Melmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04605022114965125364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-49461544262345216082011-02-03T11:36:22.783-08:002011-02-03T11:36:22.783-08:00I am currently in your online class and have taken...I am currently in your online class and have taken class in person as well. I'm taking this class to spur myself into following a sequence for designing, which includes value studies. I HAVE taken class from you, I learned--truly--the importance of value studies, and yet, I thought I'd just hurry by with them and DO them to get on with the process. Lo! and Behold!!! I've finished studies two designs so far and realized that the second was much more interesting with the values reversed, so I made a third on that premise, since not all the values worked in a reversed mode. So knowing and even having done the process, is not enough. I think I require 10,000 hours on values alone. Someday I'll be a very old success! But thank you for sharing the methods of rehearsing outside the studio, most useful!Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04730298448632087144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-88410394304716871492011-02-03T09:49:27.892-08:002011-02-03T09:49:27.892-08:00I think the hardest (hence perhaps most valuable?)...I think the hardest (hence perhaps most valuable?) way to asses value etc is in the real world, where comparisons are most difficult because of confusions of light and hue. Practicing with black and white and gray is a good start (not that you are at the starting line -- more like nearing the finish) but your walking and trying to suss out the differences sounds to me like the ultimate challenge.<br /><br />One of my earliest workshops was from Nancy Crow who had us bring 100 different solid colors -- and the first task was to sort them by value. But that was years ago; I think I'll go outside today and practice. Thanks, Elizabeth.<br /><br />And you are right about taking classes (perhaps better than workshops) where you get ongoing feedback. There too I'm behind my own theory. But it only took Van Gogh five years to achieve mastery, so there's hope for both of us.Junehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00325386238844997236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1210759514036256082.post-25630559464190834982011-02-03T09:16:01.923-08:002011-02-03T09:16:01.923-08:00How nice to discover your blog. I love your approa...How nice to discover your blog. I love your approach to art making. For those of us that slogged (yep, it was a slog some days) through art school, I think we take these art basics for granted. It's always important to review (or learn!)the very basics, value, line, form, color etc.. and as you stated, repeat them over until they become natural. Like an athlete or musician who trains and practices, artists need the training as well ( I think). I like to keep a sketchbook of these types of excercises, and work quickly, every day on just sketches, and such. Helps keep my brain in the 'art' mode vs. the myriad of other modes it tries to slip into. Nice post!Lorie McCownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547535852495946304noreply@blogger.com